Aaron P.
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Recon Chicken
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Post by Aaron P. on Dec 24, 2010 0:45:29 GMT -5
As cool as these are I think they are going in the wrong direction. Instead of further improving the current AEG gearbox tech they are leaning towards making the guns even more realistic. I don't agree with it because I think the last thing airsoft needs in the public eye is to perform more realistically (as opposed to looking authentic). Also, gas never seems to be as efficient and almost always pushes the boundaries between safe and unsafe (at least in the sniper rifles. 430+ FPS is a number being tossed around which isn't too bad)
I don't know. I want them to remain toy guns and stop pushing the line towards firearms. I'd rather have an efficient laser gun-looking AEG than a GBB rifle that could be mistaken for the real thing.
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Post by bkavitsky on Dec 24, 2010 1:08:27 GMT -5
Gas is too temperature tempermental to ever replace AEGs for field play. I kind of want one, but the better ones run High-end AEG prices and still suffer the same issued all gas guns have.
If people stopped being so damn ignorant about guns airsoft wouldn't have a problem.
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Post by George Tagmire on Dec 24, 2010 1:39:09 GMT -5
I don't really know how I feel about them yet. Before I fired a gbb pistol, I thought they were a waste of money. As soon as I got my hands on one I loved it. I never actually held or fired a gbb rifle, and actually testing something is usually my deciding factor. I like he idea of having some heavy recoil, and a nice blowback system better than the wonky ebb systems. But ultimately all of that just leads to the rifle looking super real like Aaron mentioned.
There's also more concerns with gbb rifles. Temp issues like Brandon mentioned but also the upgradability. Can you effectively change the rof? Can you increase/decrease the fps without compromising the gas compression needed to shoo the bb? I don't really know, I just have a feeling that it is much easier to modify an aeg to meet your needs than a gbb rifle. But i would really like to fire one and see what it's like.
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Post by jamesesposito on Dec 24, 2010 11:56:42 GMT -5
My reaction is "whatever" to GBB rifles. They will never replace AEGs for skirmish play, and i personally would never bring one out to try it. I figure that most AEGs have something like a 15%-20% failure rate at the best of times, why would you want to buy something that is so temperature dependent that you could only use it about 50% of the time?
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Post by jhample on Dec 24, 2010 12:05:23 GMT -5
i like the realisticness of gbbr. but will not be buying one any time soon. they are still too expensive. and the technology isnt quite there. the mags are low caps (20-30 rounds) and most guns will have a hard time saving enough gas for a whole mag. and as weve all seen the last 2-3 games gas guns are worthless for the winter. so unless they make some kind of mag warmer its not gonna work. and like george said theres not much you can do to modify rof or fps aside from changing gas types.
side note: gbb p90 is stupid. on a p90 there are no external moving parts to even know its blowing back. so it would only be the minimum recoil that gbb offer. and no one but the user would no (aside from the sound)
i think they need to focus on improving the aeg gearbox too. companies like ares and g&g are on the right track. ares has a quick change spring. and g&g has an adjustable spring guide on the new fn2000 (check it out change from 350-400 fps in seconds). things like that are what we need. not more gbb (but still keep the gbb testing going on in the background for future use when the tech is all together)
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Post by George Tagmire on Dec 25, 2010 0:17:00 GMT -5
I really hope that p90 doesn't stay clear and it's only a prototype model. Clear airsoft guns are ugly as sin.
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Post by jhample on Dec 25, 2010 10:46:24 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was clear just to show it's blowback since nothing external moves
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